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644: You Have to Invert
Pre-show: G4 Doorbell Pro Bespoke 3D-printed mount Fancy-schmancy Marco-recommended Flashlight What betas are we running? Virtual Buddy 𝑥OS 26 & Version Numbers iOS Apps built against old SDKs get 19.0; new ones get 26.0 (via Gui Rambo) ProcessInfo /System/Library/CoreServices/SystemVersionCompat.plist Tahoe returns 16 when reqiured for compatibility and 26 otherwise (via Howard Oakley) SYSTEM_VERSION_COMPAT=1 = 16 null or SYSTEM_VERSION_COMPAT=0 = 26 Liquid Glass Adopting Liquid Glass Don’t Liquid Glass All the Things Not present in macOS? (via Steve Troughton-Smith) Liquid Glass clone in Flutter (via Dave Wood) Fluid Glass in React (via Francisco Tolmasky) macOS Tahoe Whimsy returns! (via Minimal Nerd) Squircle Jail Squircle ∆ (via Yannic Lung) Say Hello to the New Look of App Icons Squircle Jailbreak! (via Simon B Støvring) Speaking of rounded corners… Build an AppKit App with the New Design Chonky stoplights macOS 26 window control buttons are no longer smol (via Avi Drissman) -[NSTitledFrame sizeOfTitlebarButtons] Missing title bars Missing menu bar fixes GlassBar Boring Old Menu Bar Alignment Tahoe dialog Tahoe dialog, center-icon mockup Left-aligned title bar text images Finder icon controversy Stephen tried Icon Composer with solid results Michael Flarup D. Griffin Jones Icons next to menu items Previously in the HIG (via Stefan Habel) Today in the HIG Tabs contrast Terminal tabs Safari contrast Ridiculous pink in the toolbar in Safari Arrow cursor has been updated Discovery by Nathan Manceaux-Panot Hand cursor as well Floating elements & compartmentalization Screenshot We all float down here Mario Alberto Guzmán’s observations Steve Troughton-Smith’s observations Clipboard history Stephen Robles Overview video Future of Rosetta Ars Technica New disk image format: ASIF Howard Oakley write-up iOS 26 UI impressions New slider thumbs reveal new info (via Niki Tonsky) Video iPadOS 26 Open window limits (via Steve Troughton-Smith) Previously, in Mac OS X 10.0… Slideover is 💀 UI impressions Testing Liquid Glass UIDesignRequiresCompatibility Vision Pro 4K? (via Steve Troughton-Smith) Post-show: WWDC Favorites Apple’s transcription APIs John Voorhees’s write-up Yap Generable SwitchGlass Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple snubber Gruber, so who got the nod? Interview roundup on MacRumors Joanna Stern 7-minute excerpt Full 24-minute interview Mark from Tom’s Guide & Lance from TechRadar Sponsored by: Hello Fresh: America’s #1 Meal Kit Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code atp. Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!
643: You Go to Squircle Jail
Pre-show: Initial Switch 2 Reactions Mario Kart World WWDC F1 Sam Henri Gold Marcel Flighty Parcel Control Plane Acorn Post-show: RIP, John’s Mac Pro Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple’s latest paper on the limitations of LLMs Previously discussed on ATP #609 GaryMarcus’ blog post which quotes a summary from Josh Wolfe Gary’s 1998 paper Gary’s 2001 book Sponsored by: Clic for Sonos: Elevate Your Sonos Experience with Clic Sponsored by Betterhelp: Give online therapy a try and get on your way to being your best self. DeleteMe: Making it quick, easy and safe to remove your personal data online. Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!
642: A Rebuilding Year
Follow-up: Apple “emergency” App Store appeal denied Additional lighting solution (via Nathanial) macOS 26: Tahoe? macOS 26 supported hardware Laurene Powell Jobs & Jony Ive interview MacRumors coverage Molly White’s newsletter Polycom “star”/”spider” phones Vision Pro & John Siracusa Corner Bono: Stories of Surrender Open: An Autobiography Rattle and Hum AI Screenshots: Crowd Stadium TV PSA: Plex privacy opt-out Apple/SwiftUI folks: a quick appeal, if you please Casey’s toot FB17661404 WWDC hopes & predictions Greg Jozwiak’s tweet Physicality: The new age of UI by Sebastiaan de With Windows Aero Newton’s cradle Sendable Post-show: Apple declines invitation to The Talk Show Live Retreating to Safety Something Is Rotten in the State of Cupertino Members-only ATP Overtime: Sky: a new AI app for macOS Federico’s exclusive Stu Maschewitz’s take Software Applications Incorporated Sponsored by: Factor: Healthy Eating, Made Easy. Get 50% off plus free shipping on your first box. Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code atp. MasterClass: Learn from the world’s best. Video lessons that inspire. Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!
641: We're Saving That for the Egg
Pre-show: ATP’s relationship with Apple Five Whys Follow-up: SSD longevity details from an anonymous SSD firmware engineer Vision Pro on The Price is Right What are Jony Ive and Sam Altman building? Ming-Chi Quo’s opinion Upgrade #565: The Scent of Humane Alexa Plus Update Neutral: Slate Truck Top Gear review TELO, a potential Slate competitor (via Kevin Ayers) There’s a Discord (via Kevin Cash) DeMuro’s review Classic Mini vs. Modern MINI Pickup beds over time Apple Turnover and Apple Turnaround ATP #639: Crimp the World Terry Pratchett’s Boots theory Apple’s “Back to the Mac” event from 2010 Post-show: More restaurant-tech MVPs DeWalt LED Work Light DeWalt Tire Inflator DeWalt 60V Blower Zip-Tie Screw Mounts 3M VHB Tape Waveform Lighting power supply, dimmer, and Dim-to-Warm LED strip (optional diffusing channels) Knipex Wire Stripper Wago Connectors Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple OS rebranding & macOS name predictions Sponsored by: TRMNL: A hackable e-ink display. Use code ATP. Notion: Your notes, docs, and projects in one space. Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!
640: Put It in a Potato
Pre-show: 🗣️ New ATP Member Special: ATP Top Four: Game Consoles 🗣️ Follow-up: Home Networking Corner 🤝🏻 Vision Pro Corner How I use my AVP to retrofit Unifi Access Points in finished homes SSDs and long-term storage was covered on Security Now #1023 (via Paul Chernoff) SpinRite (Intel-only) Fornite is back in the US App Store App Store link Judge YGR’s filing Apple 🤝🏻 Epic Epic courts Apple developers Gurman on the Apple Intelligence fiasco Previously on ATP The EU App Store warning about external purchases isn’t new after all Apple documentation Apple to open AI models to developers? OpenAI buys Jony Ive’s AI company, io Sam and Jony Gurman’s coverage Ask ATP: What was our favorite school camp/trip? (via Harrison) FBLA Disc camera What’s the deal with the tire markings on the bootleg cover art? (via Josh Kincaid) Show art Wheel size explained Is there a good camera lens that’s also light? (via Matt Richardson) Matt on Instagram Pancake lens Fuji GFX 100RF APS-C LensRentals Sony RX100 Ricoh GR IIIx Post-show Neutral: CarPlay Ultra Top Gear review Previously on ATP The Vergecast Members-only ATP Overtime: Meanwhile, in Europe… European Commission fines Apple & Meta for breaching DMA Gruber did the math New smartphone labels for battery life & repairability Official release Nutrition label Energy Star Sponsored by: Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code atp. DeleteMe: Making it quick, easy and safe to remove your personal data online. Hello Fresh: America’s #1 meal kit. Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!
639: Crimp the World
Pre-show: Marco’s [kinda] brief review of the M4 MacBook Pro CalDigit TS5 Follow-up: Letterboxd SF Symbol Procured via volunteer Alyce D! 💙 Custom Symbols App (App Store link) AI App Store summaries != spam email filtering (via Kevin Markham) “A fine is a price” (via Kieran Healy) A Fine is a Price by Gneezy & Rustichini Apple 🤝🏻 Anthropic Apple appeals App Store rule changes Riley Testut details changes to Delta’s IAP options More (Ed: 🤣🤣🤣) Meanwhile, in the App Store… Home networking corner Ubiquiti’s consumer line is Amplifi Try CubiCasa for floor plans (via Colin Robertson) What Unifi Stuff Should I Buy? (via Thunder God Cid) Casey’s sitrep 2× U6-LR installed Ugly PoE injectors 10GbE card installed in Synology Switches just arrived Lite 8 PoE Flex Mini Camera time? Apple Turnover Upgrade #563: Peanut or a Banana Some fun Apple media Search Engine: The Dave and Busters Anomaly Gui Rambo’s investigation A conversation with Jony Ive Backblaze drama Backblaze is a former ATP sponsor Morpheus Research report Backblaze’s initial response Backblaze’s formal response Profit breakdowns Post-show: More restaurant-tech MVPs Cable Matters Marco’s crimping toolkit Members-only ATP Overtime: SSD data doesn’t last forever Video M-DISC Sponsored by: Mack Weldon: Get 25% off your first order of $125 or more with code ATP. BetterHelp: Give online therapy a try and get on your way to being your best self. Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!
638: Hop, Hop, Hop
Pre-show: Chromebook-block evasions Follow-up: At least one person did miss our WWDC sale. 🙁 Vision Pro Corner: StagePlay Blue Man Group Epic vs. Apple The Verge on Apple’s decision making Apple’s Response Apple Appeals App Store rules have been changed MJ Tsai’s Roundup Ryan Jones Gruber Upgrade #562: Let’s Break the Law Tim Sweeney continues grandstanding Fortnite may be coming back… via 🇸🇪? Epic Games announces plans for a shop for iOS developers Press release As was foretold, Stripe has entered the chat Stripe documentation Patreon has also entered the chat Friend of the show Riley Testut works fast Spotify has also entered the chat Screenshots Ubiquiti Marco Recommendations Cloud Gateway Max Switch Ultra U7 Lite Cloud Gateway Fiber changedetection.io Pushover magicplan Ubiquiti Designer Hyperspace update Casey’s Coding Corner Vibe coding journey GIFWrapped Casey on Bluesky SF Symbols journey Post-show: Marco’s vibe coding journey LaTeX Members-only ATP Overtime: Vision Pro successor rumors “Vision Air” XREAL glasses Sponsored by: DeleteMe: Making it quick, easy and safe to remove your personal data online. Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code atp. Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!
637: Rotate Those Tennis Balls
Pre-show: Marco reaches another milestone ThinOptics round clear New ATP Member’s Special: ATP Insider: School, Then and Now Follow-up: A surprising Vision Pro corner: Adventure: Hill Climb Laura’s Hot Lap Neutral Special: Please Lose Control of Your Car Now Laura Hayes Racing (archived) D. Griffin Jones reviews the Sigma BF Article Video John discusses the design of the Mac Pro iPadOS window affordances (via Ole Oskar Eriksen) Synology’s En💩ification (via Erin Power) Server Part Deals Judge tells Apple “yeah, no” 9to5 Mac The Verge “Kafkaesque” Marco returns to YouTube reMarkable 2 Astropad iPad screen film & Apple Pencil tips Mac Power Users #789: Back to the Mac, with Matt Gemmell Supernote Manta Ask ATP: Is it even possible for Siri to get good? (via David MacQueen) Do we stll carry wallets? (via Stephen Klinck) John’s ridiculous wallet How do we share photos outside of a family unit? (Dylan Copeland) Post-show Neutral: Slate Truck Members-only ATP Overtime: AI continues to eat the world Apple Developer: What’s New Research paper LoRA not LoRa Sponsored by: Wildgrain: Free croissants in every box and $30 off your first box. MasterClass: Learn from the world’s best. Video lessons that inspire. Factor: Healthy eating, made easy. Get 50% off plus free shipping on your first box. Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!
636: Nose-Biting Territory
🗣️ ATP WWDC 2025 STORE IS UP!! 🗣️ Follow-up: Casey’s bug-reporting experience with Slack Third-party SSDs (via J. Mullins) AliExpress AirPods Pro case swaps (via Steven Merrill) USB-C MagSafe Charging Case ($100‼️) Cursor IDE support hallucinates policy causing user uprising (This is a Hacker News link to Reddit, so, uh, tread lightly.) 🫏🕳️ leaders are not good John continues to try to spend Marco’s money Rtings’ new glare testing LG G5 brightness Apple’s self-service repair program (via Sky Velleity) iPadOS 19 rumors Footguns and Synology Enshittification Ars Technica’s Synology coverage Post-show: Marco’s first batch of restaurant-tech MVPs Waveform lighting Ubiquiti Power over Ethernet Toast Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple’s AI doctor Sponsored by: Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code atp. DeleteMe: Making it quick, easy and safe to remove your personal data online. Notion: Your notes, docs, and projects in one space. Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!
635: An Effective Operator
Pre-show: Casey’s lightly boken his AirPods Pro 2 Porsche Taycan Ioniq 5 BMW i4 Chevy Bolt 🗣️ ATP WWDC 2025 STORE IS UP!! 🗣️ Follow-up: 12 April: Trump excludes some electronics from tariffs Message from US Customs & Border Protection 13 April: …except maybe not? John’s boosted post Cross-platform photo management Immich (via bapt) Nintendo Switch 2 4K 120Hz (via Kyle McMahon) Specifications Kickstand lumps (via Stuart Gibson) Other open-world racing games Console games price history Dropbox & File Provider John’s daughter’s college laptop Folding aspect ratios iPhone Mini… tri-fold? (via Peter Wagoner) MKBHD on the Huawei Mate XT Reverse-engineered Mac mini SSDs (via Jonathan Claydon) iBoff Introductory video How Apple fumbled Siri’s AI makeover MacRumors summary More on JG’s Siri leadership On Robby Walker Cross-towngroup tensions That fateful demo NIH syndrome New York Times on Apple GPU purchases Post-show: AI mind-share Members-only ATP Overtime: Sony announces its 2025 TVs FlatPanelsHD The Verge HDTVTest Pricing Sponsored by: BetterHelp: Give online therapy a try and get on your way to being your best self. Mack Weldon: Get 25% off your first order of $125 or more. HelloFresh: America’s #1 meal kit. Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!
634: We Don’t Have Enough Bees
Pre-show: Technology Connections on dishwashers Maestral How to excise Dropbox Brave Firefox Kagi Orion Arc Palm Pre 🗣️ ATP WWDC 2025 STORE IS UP!! 🗣️ Old hoodie: Bella + Canvas 3909 New hoodie: Bella + Canvas 3729 Follow-up: Vision Pro corner: Voices of VR #1557: Apple Immersive Video BTS Adventure: Ice Dive VIP: Yankee Stadium Feedback on Feedback Some thoughts on scale (via Matthew Fenselau) Fermi Paradox Do indies really get that much email? A response from Apple‽ 🤨 (via Vítor) Apple’s big OS redesign Mark Gurman Solarium iOS 19 Leak Front Page Tech video Nintendo Switch 2 launch Launch video Hands-on: The Verge Ars Technica The Joy-Cons are now mice Tweet microSD Express only Chunky hinges Pricing iPhone 17 Pro 48MP zoom lens Apple’s AI doctor AI continues to eat the world Apple Developer: What’s New Ask ATP: How do we source reviews of purchases? (via Robert Bateau) How do I back up my photos? ATP Insider: Photo Workflows How do we document complicated setups (via yertle) Post-show: How do we handle… everything? Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple’s all-glass hardware ambitions All-glass Apple Watch? Sponsored by: DeleteMe: Making it quick, easy and safe to remove your personal data online. Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code atp. Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!
633: Moonshoot
Pre-show: 🏳️⚧️ Happy Trans Day of Visibility! 🏳️⚧️ Happy anniversary, Siracusa! ATP #476 Hypercritical: Independence Day Follow-up: Vision Pro corner: Volume control (via D. Griffin Jones & Victor Prieto) & 🇪🇺 Prioritization (via Karan J) A less complementary take from Thom Holwerda More theories on behind-closed-doors talks (via illustro) Case document Will EU releases whither? (via David Shayer) An anecdote about John Giannandrea (via Wolf) Netflix in search on Apple TV (via Ryan Budish) Sony’s new RGB backlight tech shines Previously on ATP Digital Trends HDTVTest Folding MacBook? Giant iPad? Folding iPhones? Oh, my! Neo Cancellation Display sizes leak Weibo post Oppo Find N5 Under-screen Face ID? Weibo post “Six Things to Know About Apple’s Upcoming Foldable iPhone” MKBHD on the Oppo Find N5 Ask ATP: How do we approach feedback? Why are we held to different standards than Apple? Are smaller, incremental releases of software killing the joy of a new major version? (via Thom Bullock) Things You Should Never Do, Part I Post-show: Casey finally stops kicking another can Cloudflare Pages Cloudflare Pages Functions Example page Members-only ATP Overtime: Vibe coding Tim, don’t kill my vibe Cursor Replit v0 Gruber’s response Fourth-generation programming language Good Programming Quotes compiled by Henrik Warne UNIX shell as a fourth-generation language Swift Assist isn’t even in beta yet Apple (June 2024) John Voorhees did get a demo though kironet’s take Sponsored by: Notion: Your notes, docs, and projects in one space. Factor: Healthy Eating, Made Easy. Get 50% off plus free shipping on your first box. Wildgrain: Free Croissants in every box and $30 off your first box Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!
632: The Uncertainty Is Gone
Pre-show: Marco’s BMW sitrep 🗣️ New ATP Member Special: ATP Insider: Our Websites Follow-up: Vision Pro corner Spatial Gallery has an update! Volume control (via Jonathan Gulbrandsen) Siri delays (via Stephen Klinck) Gurman on the smart home hub Apple sued over false Apple Intelligence advertising Siri shake-up Threads lets you default to following… for real this time iPhone 16e Camera arrangement justifications MKBHD doesn’t care for it Full review Teardown from REWA Teardown from iFixIt Battery size comparison 17e already appearing in supply chain? Weibo post iPhone 17 Pro: 12GB RAM? WWDC 2025 Announced EU requires major changes in iOS 19 & iOS 20 EU post Timelines Wi-Fi Aware Apple stamps its feet Portless iPhones coming? AI continues to eat the world Apple Developer: What’s New Post-show: Casey has to pay to play The Movie Database Members-only ATP Overtime: Solid-state cooling revisited Frore AirJet Frore 🤝🏻 iodyne Dave 2D on a new solid-state fan system Ventiva CFM Pascals Increasing performance with heat management Sponsored by: DeleteMe: Making it quick, easy and safe to remove your personal data online. Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!
631: The Colors Are the Pepperoni
Pre-show: Casey received a present Follow-up: Vision Pro Corner: Metallica immersive concert Colorful Macs MacBook Adorable “Hidra” List of Apple codenames Hidra M3/M4 interposers (via Jonathan Dietz Jr.) M3 Max does not have a D2D (“die-to-die”) interface EE Times 🇯🇵 Tech Insights …nor does the M4 Max Reticle limits Apple Silicon info Google Sheet Apple’s multi-OS redesign (via Jon Tatum) Under the Radar #314: Optimism vs. Pessimism Something is Rotten in the State of Cupertino Apple confirms [one] Siri delay Upgrade #555: What You Are Is What You Ship Where is Swift Assist? …since John Voorhees’s demo kironet’s take Ask ATP: Do we set our phones on a surface face-up or face-down? (via Aaron Bushnell) What’s up with version numbers these days? (via Joe O’Connor) Semantic Versioning Post-show: Restaurant soft opening results Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple News+ Food Paprika Sponsored by: Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code atp. Mack Weldon: Get 25% off your first order of $125 or more using code ATP. Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!
630: Time to Spiral
Pre-show: Marco went to the bank wrong Follow-up: Vision Pro Corner New Adventure episode: Deep Water Solo Spatial Gallery Metallica immersive special is coming Virginia Tech 🤝🏻 Enter Sandman iPad Air corner “2× bass” false alarm 404 Appeal Affordable big screen (notes John Spurlock) 🗣️ ARE YOU LISTENING APPLE PEOPLE LIKE COLOR 🗣️ (via Ryan Manly) Portrait-only iPad apps (via Matt Rippetoe) Example video from Fabian More on colors (via Yossi Kanner) MacBook Air’s keyboard has new mute iconography Regarding the “Hidra” ATP #562: Do You Have a Dragon? Interview with Srouji (timestamp link) Lernaean Hydra Gurman on the M4 Ultra & Hidra Early M3 Ultra benchmarks from Geekbench 6 GPU: M3 Ultra Metal: 259,668 10% faster than M2 Ultra Mac Studio’s best at 231,757 20% faster than M2 Ultra Mac Studio’s average at 209,003 CPU: M3 Ultra single core: 3,144 ~10% faster than M2 Ultra Mac Studio’s best at 2,813 ~20% slower than M4 Max MacBook Pro’s average at 3,921 M3 Ultra multi-core: 28,119 ~25% faster than M2 Ultra Mac Studio’s average at 21,373 ~10% faster than M4 Max MacBook Pro’s average at 25,647 More from Ars Technica Apple is working on a larger iMac? (AKA John tries to save face) ATP #473: Fanboats and Coattails (Overcast link to 1:31:16) Threads timeline setting update ATP #616: I Have No Grippers The Verge’s article (25 November 2024) Thoughts on Feedback Apple is allegedly “dramatically” redesigning the UI for its next OSes Post-show: John’s speaker update Vanatoo Transparent Zero Plus ADAM Audio D3V Kanto ORA Kanto S2 speaker stands SoundSource Members-only ATP Overtime: Some Volkswagen news VW’s ID.Every1 Concept Physical buttons are coming back! 🥹 ID.2all concept The Verge’s coverage Volvo ES90 Euro NCAP puts their foot down Sponsored by: BetterHelp: Give online therapy a try and get on your way to being your best self. TRMNL: A hackable e-ink display. Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!