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How The Coronavirus Crisis Pushed The Fed Into Truly Uncharted Territory

April 23, 2020 0:45:20 43.57 MB Downloads: 0

The fate of the economy remains extremely unclear. However there is little doubt that the Fed has taken dramatic steps to arrest the crisis. Not only has Jerome Powell’s Federal Reserve dusted off old tools that were designed during the last crisis, it’s engaged in unconventional actions, such as lending directly to municipal authorities, as well as becoming a player in the market for private sector corporate debt. Amid this crisis, Nathan Tankus, a researcher at the Modern Money Network, has emerged as one of the foremost experts on what the Fed has done, and what it’s capable of doing, through his widely read newsletter. He joined us on this episode to explain and contextualize the historic nature of the Fed’s actions so far. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Emerging Markets Have Never Experienced A Crisis Like This Before

April 20, 2020 0:50:51 48.86 MB Downloads: 0

With major economies around the world coming to a screeching halt, emerging markets are in a squeeze of historic proportions. Not only are they being buffeted by a domestic health crisis, but export industries are getting clobbered at the same time as access to dollars is drying up. On this episode, we speak with Brad Setser of the Council on Foreign Relations on the historic nature of this episode, which countries are particularly vulnerable, and what policies might allow for a way out. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Why The War On Physical Cash Is A War On Freedom

April 17, 2020 0:57:21 55.11 MB Downloads: 0

Commerce and payments are increasingly digital. This shift from physical to electronic is one that governments and businesses are eager to accelerate for a host of reasons. But what gets lost when we no longer have access to physical cash? On this episode, we speak with Rohan Grey, President of The Modern Money Network and the research director of the Digital Fiat Currency Institute about how governments can introduce digital currencies that enable electronic commerce, while preserving the privacy protections of physical cash. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Marco Rubio On The Effort To Save Jobs And Get People Working Again

April 15, 2020 0:31:49 30.59 MB Downloads: 0

At the end of March, Congress passed the CARES Act in an attempt to mitigate some of the massive economic devastation being caused by the coronavirus crisis. A key piece of the legislation includes grants for small businesses that keep employees on their payroll during the emergency. On this episode, we speak with Florida Senator Marco Rubio about the program, what's working, what isn't, and what it will take to move the economy back towards full employment.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

How To Stop The Fiscal Emergency Facing U.S. Cities And States

April 13, 2020 0:43:26 41.76 MB Downloads: 0

With the U.S. economy going into a deep slump, the Federal government has attempted to counteract the pain by increasing spending. But for cities and states, it’s virtually impossible for them to run counter-cyclical fiscal policy. Furthermore, the crisis is draining local coffers due to public health expenditure and the collapse of tax revenue. This has already led to the start of a state and local austerity wave (spending cuts, layoffs, etc.) that could take years to reverse. On this week’s episode, we speak with three people who have been writing about this aspect of the crisis, and how it could be addressed by both the Fed and the U.S. Treasury. We’re joined by Skanda Amarnath of Employ America, Yakov Feygin of the Berggruen Institute, and Alex Williams, a grad student at the Levy Economics Institute of Bard College, to discuss the shape of the problem and the way back to economic health. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Here’s What’s Happening With Those Korean Structured Notes That Bet Against Market Volatility

April 09, 2020 0:40:38 39.06 MB Downloads: 0

Earlier this year on Odd Lots, we did an episode about Korean structured investment products that were sold to retail investors, whose performance was tied to various market indices around the world. Crucially, those payouts were premised on there not being a major crash in those world markets. Obviously, we’ve seen quite the crash. So, for this week’s episode, we’ve gone back to Benn Eifert, the CIO of QVR Advisors, to check out the state of them now. And we also talk, more broadly, about the extreme volatility we’ve seen around the world, and what drove that, and whether or not we’ve seen the worst. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Tom Barrack On The Crisis In The Commercial Real Estate Market

April 06, 2020 0:40:52 39.29 MB Downloads: 0

The commercial real estate market has been clobbered in this crisis, as restaurants and stores virtually shut down entirely throughout the month of March. On this week’s Odd Lots episode, we speak to Tom Barrack, the CEO of Colony Capital, on the crisis facing the industry, and what he feels needs to be done further to prevent the industry from going into a tailspin. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Zoltan Pozsar and Perry Mehrling On The Historic Crisis Of Financial Market Plumbing

March 30, 2020 0:54:38 52.5 MB Downloads: 0

The plumbing of the financial system is coming under strain like never before. On this week’s podcast, we speak with two legendary experts on how the money system works: Zoltan Pozsar of Credit Suisse and Perry Mehrling of the Frederick S. Pardee School of Global Studies. They explain the extreme level of stress we’re seeing, what the Fed has done to alleviate, what more needs to be done, and what the post-crisis future may look like. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

How The Crisis Nearly Blew Up One Of The World’s Safest Trades

March 26, 2020 0:54:07 52.01 MB Downloads: 0

In normal times, U.S. Treasuries are the ultimate safe haven. They are highly liquid and guaranteed to pay out. So when people want to hide out during periods of economic and financial market volatility, you can typically count on there being a strong bid for them. But in the last couple of weeks, the volatility has been so extreme, and the flight-to-cash so severe, that the market stopped behaving as normal. And popular trades involving arbing Treasuries and Treasury bond futures started to fail. On today’s episode, we speak with Josh Younger, a managing director at JPMorgan, who explains how and why it started to fall apart. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

A Longstanding Fear About The Corporate Debt Market May Finally Be Coming True

March 23, 2020 0:41:26 39.82 MB Downloads: 0

For a long time, people have been warning that corporate debt could be the major source of vulnerability in today's economy. And the market meltdown that we've been seeing since the beginning of March could make those fears a reality. On this week's podcast, we speak with frequent Odd Lots guest Chris White of Viable Markets, on how the extreme search for yield in recent years, combined with massive issuance of debt, combined with the idiosyncrasies of the corporate debt market, could be a setup primed for disaster. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

How A Macro Manager Is Trading On One Of The Wildest Markets In History

March 19, 2020 0:45:44 43.96 MB Downloads: 0

Markets around the world are so extremely volatile that nobody can think of any perfect precedent. There are shades of the Great Recession, 1987, the period in the wake of 9/11, and other moments of extreme turbulence. This week's special episode was recorded on Monday March 16 with Naufal Sanaullah, a macro strategist at EIA All Weather Alpha Partners. He walked us through his thinking on the market, and even discussed how he was trading things, right then, during the market open. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

How Saudi Arabia Delivered A Blow To U.S. Shale Companies At The Worst Possible Moment

March 16, 2020 0:39:05 37.57 MB Downloads: 0

Saudi Arabia recently announced that it was engaging in a full-on price war by pumping oil like crazy. At one point, after the move, the price of Brent Crude plunged 31%. This was a body blow to U.S. shale companies, who are already reeling from falling prices and tightening credit markets. On this week's episode of Odd Lots, we speak with Buddy Clark, a Houston lawyer at the offices of Haynes and Boone about why this came at the worst possible time for the industry, and what could happen next. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

How To Stop The Recession From Happening Right Now

March 12, 2020 0:38:09 36.67 MB Downloads: 0

The U.S. is on the verge of an economic crisis due to the coronavirus, as people and businesses aggressively pull back on spending. On this week's Odd Lots podcast, we speak with Claudia Sahm, the director of Macroeconomic Policy at the Washington Center for Equitable Growth, about what the government can be doing right now to stop a recession. Claudia has done extensive research on exactly this topic, and now is the moment to put her theoretical work into practice. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Did Passive Investing Fuel A Bubble In Ultra-Large Tech Stocks?

March 09, 2020 0:41:45 40.14 MB Downloads: 0

Questions continue to arise over the effect of passive investing, and whether or not it's somehow distorting the market. On this week's episode, we speak to Vincent Deluard, the Director of Global Macro for INTL FCStone Inc., who argues that the endless bid for ETFs have helped fuel a bubble in megacap stocks, which continue to outperform the market. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

How A Profane Subreddit Moved The Market

March 05, 2020 0:58:41 56.39 MB Downloads: 0

In recent weeks, before the stock market plunged, a page on reddit called r/WallStreetBets suddenly started exhibiting enormous influence on a handful of stocks. The emergence of online chat rooms making huge wagers in the market calls to mind the message boards of the dotcom era. But this page is taking it to a new level. On this week's episode, we're joined by Bloomberg News reporter Luke Kawa, who has been covering the page, as well as the page's founder, Jaime Rogozinski, who started it up in 2012. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.