Hello! This is The Vergecast, the flagship podcast of The Verge... and your life. Every Friday, Nilay Patel and Dieter Bohn make sense of the week's tech news with help from our wide-ranging staff. Join us every week for a fun, deeply nerdy, often off-the-rails conversation about what's happening now (and next) in technology and gadgets.
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Saying goodbye to Twitter
Today on the flagship podcast of good tweets: 03:40 - The Verge’s William Poor goes on a vintage tech odyssey in the hopes of future-proofing his family’s heirloom Mac Classic. 28:35 - David Pierce, Alex Cranz, and Nilay Patel discuss why they spent so much time on Twitter for so many years. The year Twitter died: a special series from The Verge How Twitter broke the news Extremely softcore: the old Twitter was an idealist’s workplace and a naive business The great tweet archive Twitter was a harassment machine 1:05:40 - David answers a question from the Vergecast Hotline about organizing your digital photos. Email us at vergecast@theverge.com or call us at 866-VERGE11, we love hearing from you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
The race to win AI — and hack iMessage
The Verge's Nilay Patel, Alex Cranz, and Dan Seifert discuss Google Gemini's attempt to compete with ChatGPT, Beeper Mini bringing iMessage to Android, and shakeups in the podcast industry, and much more. Further reading: “Welcome to hell, Elon” has now been cited in a Supreme Court brief. Google launches Gemini, the AI model it hopes will take down GPT-4 Google’s Gemini AI model now powers the Bard chatbot Google’s Gemini AI model is coming to the Pixel 8 Pro — and eventually to Android Apple joins AI fray with release of model framework Bing’s GPT-4-powered Deep Search takes its time with AI questions Getty lawsuit against Stability AI to go to trial in the UK Beeper Mini brings iMessage to Android EU officials think iMessage isn’t ‘popular enough’ with businesses to warrant regulation. Spotify cancels industry-favorite podcast Heavyweight Spotify’s not going for Pulitzers anymore Spotify’s CFO and general counsel sold millions of dollars worth of stock the day after the layoff. Tidal is laying off more than 10 percent of its staff. Seems like Apple’s iTunes Movies and TV Shows apps for Apple TV really are going away. Here’s how a bridal photo captured a single person in three poses at once Federal judge vows to investigate Google for intentionally destroying chats Microsoft is investigating a Windows issue that’s renaming printers to HP LaserJet Motorola Razr 2023 review: not enough of a good thing Disney Plus and Hulu’s one-app experience is launching in beta The race to 5G is over — now it’s time to pay the bill Email us at vergecast@theverge.com or call us at 866-VERGE11, we love hearing from you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
The Verge guide to holiday shopping
The Verge's David Pierce, Victoria Song, Dan Seifert, and Jennifer Pattison Tuohy answer questions from the Vergecast Hotline about what to buy for your loved ones this holiday season. Keep emailing us at vergecast@theverge.com or leave a voicemail at 866-VERGE11, we love hearing from you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
The Cybertruck lives, and so does OpenAI
The Verge's Nilay Patel, Alex Cranz, and David Pierce discuss the Tesla Cybertruck event, the latest with OpenAI leadership, and what Elon Musk and Bob Iger said at Dealbook Summit 2023. Getting close — but not too close — to the Tesla Cybertruck Tesla Cybertruck delivery event: Elon Musk hands over the first trucks to customers Elon Musk tells advertisers: ‘Go fuck yourself’ Sam Altman is back, so what’s next for OpenAI and ChatGPT? Interview: Sam Altman on being fired and rehired by OpenAI ChatGPT is winning the future — but what future is that? Ikea debuts a trio of affordable smart home sensors DealBook Summit 2023: Elon Musk, Bob Iger, and more How to find your 2023 Spotify Wrapped Email us at vergecast@theverge.com or call us at 866-VERGE11, we love hearing from you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
How Planet Earth — and the Netflix homepage — get made
Today on the flagship podcast of multi-drone camera setups: The Verge's David Pierce chats with Planet Earth III producer Alex Walters and director Theo Webb about the gear used to make the latest nature documentary series. Netflix's Pat Flemming joins the show to discuss how Netflix figures out what to show when you open the app, and how to keep you coming back. The Verge's publisher Helen Havlak and editor-in-chief Nilay Patel join the show to answer this week's hotline question. Email us at vergecast@theverge.com or call us at 866-VERGE11, we love hearing from you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Emergency podcast: chaos at OpenAI
The Verge's Nilay Patel and Alex Heath join David Pierce after a long, winding weekend reporting on the dramatic shakeup at OpenAI, still in progress. Further reading: Turmoil at OpenAI: after firing Sam Altman, what's next for the creators of ChatGPT? Sam Altman fired as CEO of OpenAI OpenAI’s new CEO is Twitch co-founder Emmett Shear OpenAI board in discussions with Sam Altman to return as CEO Emmett Shear named new CEO of OpenAI by board Hundreds of OpenAI employees threaten to resign and join Microsoft Microsoft hires former OpenAI CEO Sam Altman How ChatGPT Fractured OpenAI - The Atlantic Email us at vergecast@theverge.com or call us at 866-VERGE11, we love hearing from you. We’re doing a survey on how people use The Verge (and what they’d want from a Verge subscription). If you’re interested in helping us out, you can fill out the survey right here: http://theverge.com/survey Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Fortnite, GTA VI, and the fate of AAA games
In episode three of our video game miniseries, The Verge's David Pierce and Polygon's Russ Frushtick and Chris Plante discuss the state of the industry's blockbuster games like Grand Theft Auto, Call of Duty, Overwatch, Fortnite, and others — and what they signal for the future of gaming. Email us at vergecast@theverge.com or call us at 866-VERGE11, we love hearing from you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Apple’s in on RCS — and everybody’s out on Bing
The Verge's Nilay Patel, David Pierce, and Alex Cranz discuss Apple announcing it will support RCS next year, AI news that came out of Microsoft Ignite, YouTube's new policy on deepfakes, and much more. Further reading: Apple says iPhones will support RCS in 2024 Google turns to regulators to make Apple open up iMessage Meta will fight the EU over regulating Messenger Microsoft Ignite 2023: all the AI news from Microsoft’s IT pro event Microsoft rebrands Bing Chat to Copilot, to better compete with ChatGPT Windows is now an app for iPhones, iPads, Macs, and PCs Microsoft Copilot Studio lets anyone build custom AI copilots Microsoft is finally making custom chips — and they’re all about AI YouTube is going to start cracking down on AI clones of musicians Google is embedding inaudible watermarks right into its AI generated music Nothing is bringing iMessage to its Android phone Taylor Swift fans used record amounts of data during the Eras Tour in North America PlayStation Portal impressions: hands-on with Sony’s remote play handheld for PS5 Opal's second camera is the Tadpole, a tiny webcam for laptops The first OLED Roku TV is here after a long, long wait Sonos teases a major new product coming next year Sonos fixes its Dolby Atmos loud pop issue after years of complaints Taylor Swift fans used record amounts of data during the Eras Tour in North America Email us at vergecast@theverge.com or call us at 866-VERGE11, we love hearing from you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Spotify and Disney have everything-app dreams
Today on the flagship podcast of machine learning-based recommendation systems: 03:31 - The Verge’s David Pierce chats with Spotify’s co-president and chief product officer Gustav Söderström about recommendations, audiobooks, app design, what Spotify wants to be, and whether it’s possible to do it all well. Spotify - The Verge 44:08 - Alex Cranz joins the show to discuss a bunch of recent streaming news, including the plan to combine Disney Plus and Hulu. Streaming - The Verge 1:10:28 - Chris Welch joins the show to help answer this week’s Vergecast Hotline question about mp3 players. The Mighty — an iPod shuffle for Spotify — finally arrives for $85 bemighty.com Email us at vergecast@theverge.com or call us at 866-VERGE11, we love hearing from you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
The fight to save old games
In episode two of our gaming mini series, The Verge's David Pierce chats with Polygon's Russ Frushtick and Chris Plante about the obstacles around both preserving and emulating video games from discontinued hardware. Email us at vergecast@theverge.com or call us at 866-VERGE11, we love hearing from you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Humane Pins and your own ChatGPT
The Verge's Nilay Patel, David Pierce, Alex Cranz, and Alex Heath discuss the debut of Humane's AI Pin, OpenAI's DevDay, GPT-4 updates, and more. Further reading: Exclusive leak: all the details about Humane's AI Pin, which costs $699 and has OpenAI integration Humane officially launches the AI Pin, its OpenAI-powered wearable All the news from OpenAI’s DevDay conference OpenAI is letting anyone create their own version of ChatGPT OpenAI wants to be the App Store of AI ChatGPT subscribers may get a ‘GPT builder’ option soon OpenAI turbocharges GPT-4 and makes it cheaper OpenAI’s GPT builder interface is dead simple to use. Valve reveals the Steam Deck OLED: $549 buys better screen, battery, and more Steam Deck OLED review: better, not faster This smart garage door controller is no longer very smart YouTube pages are getting a TikTok-like For You feed Email us at vergecast@theverge.com or call us at 866-VERGE11, we love hearing from you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
The tech trials keep coming
Today on the flagship podcast of anti-steering provisions: 02:57 - The Verge's David Pierce and Makena Kelly discuss Epic v. Google, a trial about the future of app stores. The Epic v. Google trial may come down to simple v. complicated Epic v. Google: a battle over Fortnite fees goes to court 28:49 - Liz Lopatto joins the show to detail her experience covering the Sam Bankman-Fried trial from start to finish. FTX founder Sam Bankman-Fried is guilty of fraud Sam Bankman-Fried gambled on a trial and his parents lost 58:27 - Richard Lawler helps answer this week's Vergecast Hotline question. Disney’s new vision for ESPN might include part ownership by the NBA, NFL Disney finally revealed how many billions ESPN pulls in. Email us at vergecast@theverge.com or leave a voicemail at 866-VERGE11, we love hearing from you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Handheld gaming is the future — again
In the first episode of our series about the future of gaming, The Verge's David Pierce chats with Polygon's Chris Plante and Russ Frushtick about handheld game consoles. Is this portable, all-in-one form factor where all of gaming is headed? Email us at vergecast@theverge.com or call us at 866-VERGE11, we love hearing from you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Apple events, SEO, and other fights
The Verge's Nilay Patel, David Pierce, and Alex Cranz discuss the takeaways from Apple's Mac event, the problem with SEO on the internet, streaming news, and much more. Further reading: Apple ‘Scary Fast’ Mac launch event: the 4 biggest announcements Goodbye, Touch Bar, you held incredible promise Here’s what Apple means when it says its event was ‘shot on iPhone’ Amanda Chicago Lewis’ excellent piece about the web SEO built Some thoughts about The Verge article on SEO Sundar Pichai argues in court that Google isn’t evil, it’s just a business Disney is about to own all of Hulu Joe Rogan’s big Spotify decision HBO Bosses Used ‘Secret’ Fake Accounts to Troll TV Critics Max is taking 4K away from its legacy ad-free subscribers Netflix’s ad-supported plan will reward binge watchers with ad-free episodes Streaming is more expensive than ever — and it’s only going up from here YouTube is getting serious about blocking ad blockers There's a surprising new top-five player in the smartphone market Excuse me, it’s “really an aftermarket sound solution.” The best robot vacuum for me is the one I hacked Chrome on iOS now lets you move the address bar to the bottom Google is officially trying to make .ing domains a th.ing The EV transition trips over its own cord Closing time for Sam Bankman-Fried What stalking a delivery robot taught us about AI’s limits Email us at vergecast@theverge.com or call us at 866-VERGE11, we love hearing from you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
M3 Mac launch and smartphone photography
Today on the flagship podcast of spec bumps: The Verge’s David Pierce, Alex Cranz, and Dan Seifert discuss the announcements from Apple’s “Scary Fast” Mac event. Apple’s ‘Scary Fast’ Mac event: all the news from Apple’s online keynote Becca Farsace joins the show to share her thoughts on smartphone photography in 2023, and if the “Pro” branding can live up to its name. iPhone 15 Pro Max camera: 1000 photos later, it’s still missing something 1,000 photos with the Pixel 8 Pro: AI, UI, and Pro stuff Adi Robertson answers a question from the Vergecast Hotline. Xreal’s Air 2 AR glasses ship in November in the US Email us at vergecast@theverge.com or call us at 866-VERGE11, we love hearing from you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices