Elixir Wizards is an interview-format podcast, focused on engineers who use the Elixir programming language. Initially launched in early 2019, each season focuses on a specific topic or topics, with each interview focusing on the guest's experience and opinions on the topic. Elixir Wizards is hosted by Eric Oestrich and Sundi Myint of SmartLogic, a dev shop that’s been building custom software since 2005 and running Elixir applications in production since 2015. Learn more about how SmartLogic uses Phoenix and Elixir. (https://smartlogic.io/phoenix-and-elixir?utm_source=podcast)
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Supervised State Replication in Elixir with Micah Cooper
In Season 15 episode 2, Elixir Wizards Sundi Myint and Charles Suggs chat with Micah Cooper to talk about distributed systems, data replication, and what it actually looks like to build these ideas in Elixir. Micah shares his journey from Ruby to Elixir and walks us through Visor, a library he’s building based on the Viewstamps replication algorithm. Inspired by systems like TigerBeetle, Visor explores how you can replicate state across nodes using GenServers, giving you fault tolerance and recovery without relying entirely on traditional database patterns. We talk about the difference between distributed systems and data replication, where things tend to get misunderstood, and what changes when you start thinking about state this way. The conversation also touches on event sourcing, tradeoffs in system design, and how Elixir’s distributed model makes some of these concepts more approachable than you might expect. Along the way, we talk about building for curiosity, experimenting with new ideas, and how projects like this push the ecosystem forward. Topics discussed in this episode: Building Visor and working with the Viewstamps replication model Replicating GenServer state across nodes Distributed systems vs. data replication Lessons from TigerBeetle and financial system design Event sourcing challenges and tradeoffs Rethinking database-first architectures Snapshotting, recovery, and fault tolerance The role of Elixir’s distributed model Experimentation, learning, and building for curiosity Links mentioned: Micah’s GitHub https://github.com/mrmicahcooper Micah’s GitLab https://gitlab.com/mrmicahcooper The Visor repository: https://gitlab.com/mrmicahcooper/visor Visor Hex Package https://hex.pm/packages/visor Ruby on Rails https://rubyonrails.org/ Phoenix LiveView Framework https://www.phoenixframework.org/ Zig Programming Language https://ziglang.org/ TigerBeetle https://tigerbeetle.com/ TigerBeetle internal docs https://github.com/tigerbeetle/tigerbeetle/tree/main/docs/internals The BEAM https://www.erlang-solutions.com/blog/the-beam-erlangs-virtual-machine/ GenServer https://hexdocs.pm/elixir/GenServer.html Apache Kafka https://github.com/apache/kafka RabbitMQ https://www.rabbitmq.com/ Redpanda https://www.redpanda.com/ SQL https://www.ibm.com/think/topics/structured-query-language Kubernetes https://kubernetes.io/ YAML https://yaml.org/ Nomad Workload Orchestrator https://developer.hashicorp.com/nomad Flutter https://flutter.dev/ Commanded https://hexdocs.pm/commanded/Commanded.html Go Programming Language https://go.dev/ Clojure Programming Language https://clojure.org/ Nebulex https://hexdocs.pm/nebulex/Nebulex.html Mnesia https://www.erlang.org/doc/apps/mnesia/mnesia.html Cachex https://hexdocs.pm/cachex/Cachex.html libgraph https://hexdocs.pm/libgraph/Graph.html Horde https://hexdocs.pm/horde/Horde.Registry.html NocFree split keyboard https://www.nocfree.com/ Micah’s LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/micah-cooper-4a737560/
The State of Security in Elixir with Holden Oullette
In the Elixir Wizards season 15 premiere, host Charles Suggs is joined by Holden Oullette, Senior Security Software Engineer at Netflix and maintainer of Sobelow, to talk about how security is evolving in the Elixir ecosystem. We discuss how certain features of the Elixir programming language (like functional patterns and server-side rendering) provide natural immunity against some common vulnerabilities, and what that means as the language continues to grow. Holden shares how tools like Sobelow are adapting and how new technologies like LLMs and Elixir's type system may help to strengthen security practices. We cover supply chain risks, ecosystem-level responsibility and reputation management, and how initiatives like AEGIS are prepping the community for more widespread adoption. We wrap with practical tips for teams to be more security-minded throughout the software development lifecycle without slowing everything down. Key topics discussed in this episode: How Elixir’s design influences secure-by-default development Security tradeoffs between server-side and client-heavy architecture Supply chain risks and what the ecosystem is doing to prepare Static analysis with tools like Sobelow and AST-based pattern matching Where LLMs fit into modern security workflows The role of Elixir’s upcoming type system in improving tooling Securing CI/CD pipelines and production environments Balancing development speed with security requirements Dependency management and vulnerability monitoring The AEGIS Initiative and ecosystem-wide security efforts Links mentioned: Holden’s GitHub https://github.com/houllette Elixir Programming Language https://elixir-lang.org/ Security-focused static analysis for the Phoenix Framework https://github.com/nccgroup/sobelow Code Security for Builders https://semgrep.dev/ Erlang Ecosystems Foundation https://erlef.org/ Phoenix Framework https://www.phoenixframework.org/ WebSockets https://hexdocs.pm/phoenix_live_view/Phoenix.LiveView.Socket.html https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/WebSockets_API Open Worldwide Application Security Project https://owasp.org/ https://github.com/elixir-ecto/ecto Log4j Vulnerability https://www.ncsc.gov.uk/information/log4j-vulnerability-what-everyone-needs-to-know React2Shell Vulnerability https://www.finra.org/guidance/guidance/cybersecurity-advisory-react2shell The Heartbleed Bug https://www.heartbleed.com/ Elixir Type System https://hexdocs.pm/elixir/main/gradual-set-theoretic-types.html Holden Oullette “Securing the Future: A Roadmap to Making Elixir the Safest Language” ElixirConf 2024 https://youtu.be/gpvKxS6sY8Y Aegis Initiative: Supply Chain Security & Compliance Initiative https://security.erlef.org/aegis/ OIDC Tokens https://openid.net/ Anthropic’s Claude Mythos & Cybersecurity https://red.anthropic.com/2026/mythos-preview/ Igniter Code Generation Framework https://github.com/ash-project/igniter https://smartlogic.io/podcast/elixir-wizards/s13-e01-igniter-code-generation-zach-daniel/ Secure-by-default open source software https://www.chainguard.dev/ https://www.docker.com/ https://github.com/dependabot https://docs.aws.amazon.com/apigatewayv2/latest/api-reference/apis-apiid-models.html https://nixos.org/ https://smartlogic.io/podcast/elixir-wizards/s14-e08-nix-for-elixir-apps/ https://fedoraproject.org/ https://kubernetes.io/ https://netflix.github.io/chaosmonkey/ https://netflixtechblog.com/all?topic=chaos-monkeySpecial Guest: Holden Oullette.
Enter the Elixirverse: Season 14 Wrap-Up
Today, the Elixir Wizards wrap up Season 14 “Enter the Elixirverse.” Dan, Charles, and Sundi look back at some common themes: Elixir plays well with others, bridges easily to access languages and tools, and remains a powerful technology for data flow, concurrency, and developer experience. We revisit the popular topics of the year, from types and tooling to AI orchestration and reproducible dev environments, and share what we’re excited to explore next. We also invite your questions and takeaways to help shape future seasons and conference conversations. Season 14 doubles as a handy primer for anyone curious about how Elixir integrates across the stack. Key topics discussed in this episode: * Lessons from a season of interoperability * Set-theoretic types and what new compiler warnings unlock * AI in practice: LLM orchestration, fallbacks, and real-world use * SDUI and GraphQL patterns for shipping UI across web/iOS/Android * Dataframes in Elixir with Explorer for analytics workflows * Python interoperability (ErlPort, PythonX) and when to reach for it * Reproducible dev environments with Nix and friends * Performance paths: Rustler and Zig for native extensions * Bluetooth & Nerves: Blue Heron and hardware integrations * DevEx upgrades: LiveView, build pipelines, and standard project setup * Observability and ops: Prometheus/Grafana and sensible deployments * Community feedback, conferences, and what’s on deck for next season Links mentioned in this episode: Cars.com S14E06 SDUI at Scale with Elixir https://youtu.be/nloRcgngTk?si=g4Zd4N1s56Ronrtw https://hexdocs.pm/phoenixliveview/Phoenix.LiveView.html https://wordpress.com/ https://elixir-lang.org/ S14E01 Zigler: Zig NIFs for Elixir https://youtu.be/hSAvWxh26TU?si=d55tVuZbNw0KCfT https://ziglang.org/ https://hexdocs.pm/zigler/Zig.html https://github.com/blue-heron/blueheron https://github.com/elixir-explorer/explorer S14E08 Nix for Elixir Apps https://youtu.be/yymUcgy4OAk?si=BRgTlc2VK5bsIhIf https://nixos.org/ https://nix.dev/ S14E07 Set Theoretic Types in Elixir https://youtu.be/qMmEnXcHxL4?si=Ux2lebiwEp3mc0e S14E10 Python in Elixir Apps https://youtu.be/SpVLrrWkRqE?si=ld3oQVXVlWHpo7eV https://www.python.org/ https://hexdocs.pm/pythonx/ https://github.com/Pyrlang/Pyrlang https://github.com/erlport/erlport S14E03 LangChain: LLM Integration for Elixir https://youtu.be/OwFaljL3Ptc?si=A0sDs2dzJ0UoE2PY https://github.com/brainlid/langchain S14E04 Nx & Machine Learning in Elixir https://youtu.be/Ju64kAMLlkw?si=zdVnkBTTLHvIZNBm S14E05 Rustler: Bridging Elixir and Rust https://youtu.be/2RBw7B9OfwE?si=aRVYOyxxW8fTmoRA https://github.com/rusterlium/rustler Season 3: Working with Elixir https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLTDLmInI9YaDbhMRpGuYpboVNbp1Fl9PD&si=hbe7qt4gRUfrMtpj S14E11 Vibe Coding the LoopedIn Crochet App https://youtu.be/DX0SjmPE92g?si=zCBPjS1huRDIeVeP Season 5: Adopting Elixir YouTubeLaunchisode and Outlaws Takeover with Chris Keathley, Amos King, and Anna Neyzberg S13E01 Igniter: Elixir Code Generation https://youtu.be/WM9iQlQSF_g?si=e0CAiML2qC2SxmdL Season 8: Elixir in a Polyglot Environment https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLTDLmInI9YaAPlvMd-RDp6LWFjI67wOGN&si=YCI7WLA8qozD57iw !! We Want to Hear Your Thoughts *!!* Have questions, comments, or topics you'd like us to discuss on the podcast? Share your thoughts with us here: https://forms.gle/Vm7mcYRFDgsqqpDC9
Elixir DevOps & Interoperability with Dan Ivovich and Charles Suggs
In this episode of Elixir Wizards, host Sundi Myint chats with SmartLogic engineers and fellow Wizards Dan Ivovich and Charles Suggs about the practical tooling that surrounds Elixir in a consultancy setting. We dig into how standardized dev environments, sensible scaffolding, and clear observability help teams ship quickly across many client projects without turning every app into a snowflake. Join us for a grounded tour of what’s working for us today (and what we’ve retired), plus how we evaluate new tech (including AI) through a pragmatic, Elixir-first lens. Key topics discussed in this episode: Standardizing across projects: why consistent environments matter in consultancy work Nix (and flakes) for reproducible dev setups and faster onboarding Igniter to scaffold common patterns (auth, config, workflows) without boilerplate drift Deployment approaches: OTP releases, runtime config, and Ansible playbooks Frontend pipeline evolution: from Brunch/Webpack to esbuild + Tailwind Observability in practice: Prometheus metrics and Grafana dashboards Handling time-series and sensor data When Explorer can be the database Picking the right tool: Elixir where it shines, integrations where it counts Using AI with intention: code exploration, prototypes, and guardrails for IP/security Keeping quality high across multiple codebases: tests, telemetry, and sensible conventions Reducing context-switching costs with shared patterns and playbooks Links mentioned: http://smartlogic.io https://nix.dev/ https://github.com/ash-project/igniter Elixir Wizards S13E01 Igniter with Zach Daniel https://youtu.be/WM9iQlQSFg https://github.com/elixir-explorer/explorer Elixir Wizards S14E09 Explorer with Chris Grainger https://youtu.be/OqJDsCF0El0 Elixir Wizards S14E08 Nix with Norbert (Nobbz) Melzer https://youtu.be/yymUcgy4OAk https://jqlang.org/ https://github.com/BurntSushi/ripgrep https://github.com/resources/articles/devops/ci-cd https://prometheus.io/ https://capistranorb.com/ https://ansible.com/ https://hexdocs.pm/phoenix/releases.html https://brunch.io/ https://webpack.js.org/loaders/css-loader/ https://tailwindcss.com/ https://sass-lang.com/dart-sass/ https://grafana.com/ https://pragprog.com/titles/passweather/build-a-weather-station-with-elixir-and-nerves/ https://www.datadoghq.com/ https://sqlite.org/ Elixir Wizards S14E06 SDUI at Cars.com with Zack Kayser https://youtu.be/nloRcgngTk https://github.com/features/copilot https://openai.com/codex/ https://www.anthropic.com/claude-code YouTube Video: Vibe Coding TEDCO's RFP https://youtu.be/i1ncgXZJHZs Blog: https://smartlogic.io/blog/how-i-used-ai-to-vibe-code-a-website-called-for-in-tedco-rfp/ Blog: https://smartlogic.io/blog/from-vibe-to-viable-turning-ai-built-prototypes-into-market-ready-mvps/ https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/eragon-by-christopher-paolini/246801 https://tidewave.ai/ !! We Want to Hear Your Thoughts *!!* Have questions, comments, or topics you'd like us to discuss in our season recap episode? Share your thoughts with us here: https://forms.gle/Vm7mcYRFDgsqqpDC9
Vibe Coding the LoopedIn Crochet App with Kimberly Erni & Pei Pei Wang
Today, co-founders Kimberly Erni and Pei Pei Wang join the Elixir Wizards to discuss their crochet app, LoopedIn. Recognizing a gap in the market for a more user-friendly and interactive crochet pattern experience, they're building an app that makes following patterns easier and more enjoyable for crocheters of all skill levels. They're building features such as step-by-step guidance, video tutorials, and the ability to upload and convert PDF patterns into an interactive format. Kimberly explains how she's leveraging AI tools to vibe code in Elixir and LiveView. They highlight the challenges and successes they encountered while creating a Progressive Web App (PWA) that integrates AI-powered features. They also discuss their user research and testing process, which involved gathering feedback from the crochet community to prioritize features and improve the app's UX. Kimberly and Pei Pei share their thoughts on the potential of AI in the tech industry and how it has assisted them in the development and iteration process. They emphasize the importance of understanding the code generated by AI and the need for proper testing and verification. They offer advice to others looking to create passion projects, stressing the value of finding a partner with complementary skills and shared enthusiasm for the project. Topics discussed in this episode: Discovering a niche: why crochet patterns need a digital makeover Core LoopedIn features: interactive steps, video help, PDF conversion Building a PWA with Elixir & Phoenix LiveView for cross-platform reach Offline support and caching strategies for on-the-go crafting AI-driven pattern parsing: benefits and pitfalls of generated code User research: gathering feedback from beginner to expert crocheters Agile iterations: testing, prioritizing features, and shipping quickly Balancing “vibe coding” with quality assurance and proper test coverage Partnership dynamics: complementary skills and shared passion Monetization approaches for a niche, community-driven app Roadmap highlights: expanded social features, advanced AI tooling, and more Lessons learned: documentation gaps, performance tuning, and UX trade-offs Advice for side projects: start small, validate with users, and iterate Links mentioned: Amigurumis https://www.amigurumi.com/ https://pragmaticstudio.com/phoenix-liveview https://grox.io/about-product/liveview Creating a Local First LiveView App https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcafwf14SDo https://capacitorjs.com/docs https://flutter.dev/ https://passion.place/ https://cursor.com/ https://claude.ai/ https://nerves-project.org/ https://crochetapp.web.app/ https://www.figma.com/ Little Red Book App https://www.xiaohongshu.com/ !! Try the LoopedIn app here 👉 https://looped-in.gigalixirapp.com *!!* Add it to your phone like an app: Open the link in Safari Tap the Share button (square with arrow) Tap Add to Home Screen Tap Add Then you can open it like a regular app! 🎉 Leave a comment if you try it! !! We Want to Hear Your Thoughts *!!* Have questions, comments, or topics you'd like us to discuss in our season recap episode? Share your thoughts with us here: https://forms.gle/Vm7mcYRFDgsqqpDC9
Python in Elixir Apps with Victor Björklund
In this episode, Elixir Wizard Charles Suggs sits down with Victor Björklund to map out the landscape of Python integration in Elixir applications. From HTTP APIs and external services to embedded runtimes like ErlPort, PythonX, and the Venomous library, we evaluate each approach’s impact on performance, coupling, and developer experience. Victor draws on real-world examples like Scrapy-based web scraping and the Swedish BankID authentication to illustrate best practices for error handling, process pooling, and effective telemetry across the BEAM boundary. We also tackle the practical side of deployment: packaging Python dependencies in Mix releases, mocking Python calls in tests, and deploying multi-language apps with confidence. Wrapping up, Victor shares his wishlist for even tighter interop (think multiple Python interpreter instances per VM) and offers low-risk entry points, like automating monthly reports, for teams ready to explore the power of Python’s ecosystem within Elixir. Key topics discussed in this episode: Integration methods: HTTP APIs, ports, ErlPort, PythonX, Venomous Performance vs. coupling trade-offs across interop patterns Managing the Global Interpreter Lock (GIL) with process pools Leveraging mature Python libraries (Scrapy, BankID, etc.) Error handling strategies across BEAM↔Python boundaries Testing mixed-language systems: mocks and integration tests Packaging and deploying Python alongside Elixir releases Monitoring and telemetry for multi-language pipelines Functional programming advantages in Elixir workflows Tool selection guidance by project requirements Future possibilities: multiple Python interpreters in one VM Community resources for Python–Elixir interop help Links mentioned: jawdropping.io https://cplusplus.com/ https://www.python.org/ https://react.dev/ https://nodejs.org/en https://erlport.org/ https://hexdocs.pm/pythonx/Pythonx.html https://pyrlang.github.io/Pyrlang/ Python GIL (Global Interpreter Lock): https://realpython.com/python-gil/ https://github.com/devinus/poolboy https://hexdocs.pm/venomous/Venomous.html Try-catch https://syntaxdb.com/ref/python/try-catch https://www.scrapy.org/ https://www.bankid.com/en/ https://www.phoenixframework.org/ https://www.tzeyiing.com/posts/using-a-hunky-poolboy-to-manage-your-python-erlport-processes-in-elixir/ https://medium.com/stuart-engineering/how-we-use-python-within-elixir-486eb4d266f9 https://x.com/bjorklundvictor https://victorbjorklund.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/victorbjorklund/ hello@victorbjorklund.com
Explorer: Data Frames in Elixir with Chris Grainger
In this episode of Elixir Wizards, Charles Suggs sits down with Chris Grainger, co-founder and CTO of Amplified and creator of the Explorer library. Chris explains how Explorer brings the familiar data-frame workflows of R’s dplyr and Python’s pandas into the Elixir world. We explore (pun intended!) how Explorer integrates with Ecto, Nx, and LiveView to build end-to-end data pipelines without leaving the BEAM, and how features like lazy evaluation and distributed frames let you tackle large datasets. Whether you’re generating reports or driving interactive charts in LiveView, Explorer makes tabular data accessible to every Elixir developer. We wrap up by looking ahead to SQL-style backends, ADBC connectivity, and other features on the Explorer roadmap. Key topics discussed in this episode: dplyr- and pandas-inspired data manipulation in Elixir Polars integration via Rust NIFs for blazing performance Immutable data frames and BEAM-friendly concurrency Lazy evaluation to work with arbitrarily large tables Distributed data-frame support for multi-node processing Seamless integration with Ecto schemas and queries Zero-copy interoperability between Explorer and Nx tensors Apache Arrow and ADBC protocols for cross-language I/O Exploring SQL-style backends for remote query execution Building interactive dashboards and charts in LiveView Consolidating ETL workflows into a single Elixir API Streaming data pipelines for memory-efficient processing Tidy data principles and behavior-based API design Real-world use cases: report generation, patent analysis, and more Future roadmap: new backends, query optimizations, and community plugins Links mentioned: https://hexdocs.pm/explorer/Explorer.html https://www.amplified.ai/ https://www.r-project.org/ https://vita.had.co.nz/papers/tidy-data.pdf https://www.tidyverse.org/ https://www.python.org/ https://dplyr.tidyverse.org/ https://go.dev/ https://hexdocs.pm/nx/Nx.html https://github.com/pola-rs/polars https://github.com/rusterlium/rustler https://www.rust-lang.org/ https://www.postgresql.org/ https://hexdocs.pm/ecto/Ecto.html https://www.elastic.co/elasticsearch https://arrow.apache.org/ Chris Grainger & Chris McCord Keynote ElixirConf 2024: https://youtu.be/4qoHPh0obv0 https://dbplyr.tidyverse.org/ https://spark.posit.co/ https://hexdocs.pm/pythonx/Pythonx.html https://hexdocs.pm/vegalite/VegaLite.html 10 Minutes to Explorer: https://hexdocs.pm/explorer/exploringexplorer.html https://github.com/elixir-nx/scholar https://scikit-learn.org/stable/ https://github.com/cigrainger https://erlef.org/slack-invite/erlef https://bsky.app/profile/cigrainger.bsky.social https://github.com/cigrainger
Nix for Elixir Apps with Norbert (NobbZ) Melzer
In this episode of Elixir Wizards, Dan Ivovich and Charles Suggs sit down with Norbert “NobbZ” Melzer to discuss how Nix enables reproducible builds, consistent development environments, and reliable deployments for Elixir projects. Norbert shares his journey from Ruby to Elixir, contrasts Nix with NixOS, and walks us through flakes, nix-shell workflows, sandboxed builds, and rollback capabilities. Along the way, we cover real-world tips for managing Hex authentication, integrating Nix into CI/CD, wrapping Mix releases in Docker, and avoiding common pitfalls, such as flake performance traps. Whether you’re spinning up your first dev shell or rolling out a production release on NixOS, you’ll come away with a clear, gradual adoption path and pointers to the community mentors and resources that can help you succeed. Key topics discussed in this episode: Reproducible, sandboxed builds vs. traditional package managers Nix flakes for locked dependency graphs and version pinning nix-shell: creating consistent development environments across teams Rollback and immutable deployment strategies with Nix/NixOS Integrating Nix with the Elixir toolchain: Hex, Mix, and CI/CD pipelines Flakes vs. standard shells: when and how to transition Handling private Hex repositories and authentication in Nix Cross-platform support (macOS/Darwin, Linux variants) Channels, overlays, and overrides for customizing builds Dockerizing Elixir releases using Nix-based images Home Manager for personal environment configuration Security patching workflows in a Nix-managed infrastructure Common pitfalls: flake performance, sandbox workarounds, and symlink behavior Community resources and the importance of human mentorship Links mentioned: https://jobrad-loop.com/ https://nixos.org/ https://nix.dev/ https://nix.dev/manual/nix/2.18/command-ref/nix-shell https://github.com/nix-darwin/nix-darwin https://asdf-vm.com/ https://go.dev/ https://docs.redhat.com/en/documentation/redhatenterpriselinux/8/html/packaginganddistributingsoftware/introduction-to-rpm_packaging-and-distributing-software Nix Flake templates for Elixir https://github.com/jurraca/elixir-templates https://www.docker.com/ https://www.sudo.ws/ https://ubuntu.com/ https://archlinux.org/ Nobbz’s blog https://blog.nobbz.dev/blog/ https://ayats.org/blog/nix-workflow @nobbz.dev on BlueSky @NobbZ1981 on Twitter https://www.linkedin.com/in/norbert-melzer/ https://youtu.be/HbtbdLolHeM?si=6M7fulTQZmuWGGCM (talk on CodeBEAM)
Set Theoretic Types in Elixir with José Valim
Elixir creator José Valim returns to the podcast to unpack the latest developments in Elixir’s set-theoretic type system and how it is slotting into existing code without requiring annotations. We discuss familiar compiler warnings, new warnings based on inferred types, a phased rollout in v1.19/v1.20 that preserves backward compatibility, performance profiling the type checks across large codebases, and precise typing for maps as both records and dictionaries. José also touches on CNRS academic collaborations, upcoming LSP/tooling enhancements, and future possibilities like optional annotations and guard-clause typing, all while keeping Elixir’s dynamic, developer-friendly experience front and center. Key topics discussed in this episode: Set-theoretic typing (union, intersection, difference) Compiler-driven inference with zero annotations Phased rollout strategy in 1.19 and 1.20 Performance profiling for large codebases Map typing as records and dictionaries Exhaustivity checks and behavioral typing in GenServers Language Server Protocol & tooling updates Future optional annotations and guard-clause typing CNRS collaboration for theoretical foundations Clear error messages and false-positive reduction Community-driven feedback and iterative improvements Links mentioned: https://github.com/elixir-nx https://livebook.dev/ https://hexdocs.pm/phoenixliveview/Phoenix.LiveView.html https://hexdocs.pm/elixir/main/gradual-set-theoretic-types.html https://hexdocs.pm/dialyxir/0.4.0/readme.html https://remote.com/ Draw the Owl meme: https://i.imgur.com/rCr9A.png https://dashbit.co/blog/data-evolution-with-set-theoretic-types https://hexdocs.pm/ecto/Ecto.html https://github.com/elixir-lsp/elixir-ls Special Guest: José Valim.
SDUI at Scale: GraphQL & Elixir at Cars.com with Zack Kayser
Zack Kayser, Staff Software Engineer at cars.com, joins Elixir Wizards Sundi Myint and Charles Suggs to discuss how Cars.com adopted a server-driven UI (SDUI) architecture powered by Elixir and GraphQL to deliver consistent, updatable interfaces across web, iOS, and Android. We explore why SDUI matters for feature velocity, how a mature design system and schema planning make it feasible, and what it takes, culturally and technically, to move UI logic from client code into a unified backend. Key topics discussed in this episode: SDUI fundamentals and how it differs from traditional server-side rendering GraphQL as the single source of truth for UI components and layouts Defining abstract UI components on the server to eliminate duplicate logic Leveraging a robust design system as the foundation for SDUI success API-first development and cross-team coordination for schema changes Mock data strategies for early UI feedback without breaking clients Handling breaking changes and hot-fix deployments via server-side updates Enabling flexible layouts and A/B testing through server-controlled ordering Balancing server-driven vs. client-managed UI Iterative SDUI rollout versus “big-bang” migrations in large codebases Using type specs and Dialyxir for clear cross-team communication Integration testing at the GraphQL layer to catch UI regressions early Quality engineering’s role in validating server-driven interfaces Production rollback strategies across web and native platforms Considerations for greenfield projects adopting SDUI from day one Zack and Ethan's upcoming Instrumenting Elixir Apps book Links mentioned: https://cars.com https://github.com/absinthe-graphql/absinthe Telemetry & Observability for Elixir Apps Ep: https://youtu.be/1V2xEPqqCso https://www.phoenixframework.org/blog/phoenix-liveview-1.0-released https://hexdocs.pm/phoenixliveview/assigns-eex.html https://graphql.org/ https://tailwindcss.com/ https://github.com/jeremyjh/dialyxir https://github.com/rrrene/credo GraphQL Schema https://graphql.org/learn/schema/ SwiftUI https://developer.apple.com/documentation/swiftui/ Kotlin https://kotlinlang.org/ https://medium.com/airbnb-engineering/a-deep-dive-into-airbnbs-server-driven-ui-system-842244c5f5 Zack’s Twitter: https://x.com/kayserzl/ Zack’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/zack-kayser-93b96b88 Special Guest: Zack Kayser.
Rustler: Bridging Elixir and Rust with Sonny Scroggin
Rustler Core Team Member Sonny Scroggin joins Elixir Wizards Sundi Myint and Charles Suggs. Rustler serves as a bridge to write Native Implemented Functions (NIFs) in Rust that can be called from Elixir code. This combo leverages Rust's performance and memory safety while maintaining Elixir's fault tolerance and concurrency model, creating a powerful solution for CPU-intensive operations within Elixir applications. Sonny provides guidance on when developers should consider using NIFs versus other approaches like ports or external services and highlights the considerations needed when stepping outside Elixir's standard execution model into native code. Looking toward the future, Sonny discusses exciting developments for Rustler, including an improved asynchronous NIF interface, API modernization efforts, and better tooling. While Rust offers tremendous performance benefits for specific use cases, Sonny emphasizes that Elixir's dynamic nature and the BEAM's capabilities for distributed systems remain unmatched for many applications. Rustler simply provides another powerful tool that expands what developers can accomplish within the Elixir ecosystem. Key topics discussed in this episode: Rust as a "high-level low-level language" with memory safety NIFs (Native Implemented Functions) in the BEAM virtual machine Rustler's role simplifying Rust-Elixir integration with macros CPU-intensive operations as primary NIF use cases Beam scheduler interaction considerations with native code Dirty schedulers for longer-running NIFs in OTP 20+ Memory safety advantages of Rust for NIFs Development workflow using Mix tasks for Rustler Common pitfalls when first working with Rust Error handling improvements possible with Rustler NIFs Differences between ports, NIFs, and external services Asynchronous programming approaches in Rust versus Elixir Tokyo runtime integration for asynchronous operations Static NIFs for mobile device compatibility Upcoming CLI tooling to simplify Rustler development Rustler's API modernization efforts for better ergonomics Thread pool sharing across multiple NIFs Wasm integration possibilities for the BEAM Compile-time safety versus dynamic runtime capabilities Performance considerations when implementing NIFs Compiler-assisted memory management in Rust Automatic encoding/decoding between Rust and Elixir types The importance of proper error handling Real-world application in high-traffic authentication servers Community resources for learning Rustler Links mentioned: https://github.com/rusterlium/rustler https://github.com/rust-lang/rust https://www.angelfire.lycos.com/ https://www.webdesignmuseum.org/flash-websites https://www.php.net/ https://xmpp.org/ https://jabberd2.org/ Geocities: https://cybercultural.com/p/geocities-1995/ (fun fact: when you search Geocities on Google, the results page is in Comic Sans font.) https://bleacherreport.com/ https://hexdocs.pm/jose/readme.html https://github.com/rust-lang/rust-bindgen Erlang Ports: https://www.erlang.org/doc/system/cport.html Erlang ETFs (External Term Format): https://www.erlang.org/doc/apps/erts/erlextdist.html Elixir gRPC https://github.com/elixir-grpc/grpc gRPC (“Remote Proceduce Call”): https://grpc.io/ dirtycpu.ex https://github.com/E-xyza/zigler/blob/main/lib/zig/nif/dirty_cpu.ex ets https://www.erlang.org/doc/apps/stdlib/ets.html Mnesia https://www.erlang.org/doc/apps/mnesia/mnesia.html VPPs (Virtual Power Plants): https://www.energy.gov/lpo/virtual-power-plants https://nixos.org/ WASM WebAssembly with Elixir: https://github.com/RoyalIcing/Orb Rust Tokio https://tokio.rs/ Getting Started: https://hexdocs.pm/rustler/0.17.0/Mix.Tasks.Rustler.New.html https://rustup.rs/ Special Guest: Sonny Scroggin.
Nx and Machine Learning in Elixir with Sean Moriarity
Today on Elixir Wizards, hosts Sundi Myint and Charles Suggs catch up with Sean Moriarity, co-creator of the Nx project and author of Machine Learning in Elixir. Sean reflects on his transition from the military to a civilian job building large language models (LLMs) for software. He explains how the Elixir ML landscape has evolved since the rise of ChatGPT, shifting from building native model implementations toward orchestrating best-in-class tools. We discuss the pragmatics of adding ML to Elixir apps: when to start with out-of-the-box LLMs vs. rolling your own, how to hook into Python-based libraries, and how to tap Elixir’s distributed computing for scalable workloads. Sean closes with advice for developers embarking on Elixir ML projects, from picking motivating use cases to experimenting with domain-specific languages for AI-driven workflows. Key topics discussed in this episode: The evolution of the Nx (Numerical Elixir) project and what's new with ML in Elixir Treating Elixir as an orchestration layer for external ML tools When to rely on off-the-shelf LLMs vs. custom models Strategies for integrating Elixir with Python-based ML libraries Leveraging Elixir’s distributed computing strengths for ML tasks Starting ML projects with existing data considerations Synthetic data generation using large language models Exploring DSLs to streamline AI-powered business logic Balancing custom frameworks and service-based approaches in production Pragmatic advice for getting started with ML in Elixir Links mentioned: https://hexdocs.pm/nx/intro-to-nx.html https://pragprog.com/titles/smelixir/machine-learning-in-elixir/ https://magic.dev/ https://smartlogic.io/podcast/elixir-wizards/s10-e10-sean-moriarity-machine-learning-elixir/ Pragmatic Bookshelf: https://pragprog.com/ ONNX Runtime Bindings for Elixir: https://github.com/elixir-nx/ortex https://github.com/elixir-nx/bumblebee Silero Voice Activity Detector: https://github.com/snakers4/silero-vad Paulo Valente Graph Splitting Article: https://dockyard.com/blog/2024/11/06/2024/nx-sharding-update-part-1 Thomas Millar's Twitter https://x.com/thmsmlr https://github.com/thmsmlr/instructorex https://phoenix.new/ https://tidewave.ai/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BERT(language_model) Talk: PyTorch: Fast Differentiable Dynamic Graphs in Python (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=am895oU6mmY) by Soumith Chintala https://hexdocs.pm/axon/Axon.html https://hexdocs.pm/exla/EXLA.html VLM (Vision Language Models Explained): https://huggingface.co/blog/vlms https://github.com/ggml-org/llama.cpp Vector Search in Elixir: https://github.com/elixir-nx/hnswlib https://www.amplified.ai/ Llama 4 https://mistral.ai/ Mistral Open-Source LLMs: https://mistral.ai/ https://github.com/openai/whisper Elixir Wizards Season 5: Adopting Elixir https://smartlogic.io/podcast/elixir-wizards/season-five https://docs.ray.io/en/latest/ray-overview/index.html https://hexdocs.pm/flame/FLAME.html https://firecracker-microvm.github.io/ https://fly.io/ https://kubernetes.io/ WireGuard VPNs https://www.wireguard.com/ https://hexdocs.pm/phoenixpubsub/Phoenix.PubSub.html https://www.manning.com/books/deep-learning-with-python Code BEAM 2025 Keynote: Designing LLM Native Systems - Sean Moriarity Ash Framework https://ash-hq.org/ Sean’s Twitter: https://x.com/seanmoriarity Sean’s Personal Blog: https://seanmoriarity.com/ Erlang Ecosystems Foundation Slack: https://erlef.org/slack-invite/erlef Elixir Forum https://elixirforum.com/ Sean’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sean-m-ba231a149/ Special Guest: Sean Moriarity.
LangChain: LLM Integration for Elixir Apps with Mark Ericksen
Mark Ericksen, creator of the Elixir LangChain framework, joins the Elixir Wizards to talk about LLM integration in Elixir apps. He explains how LangChain abstracts away the quirks of different AI providers (OpenAI, Anthropic’s Claude, Google’s Gemini) so you can work with any LLM in one more consistent API. We dig into core features like conversation chaining, tool execution, automatic retries, and production-grade fallback strategies. Mark shares his experiences maintaining LangChain in a fast-moving AI world: how it shields developers from API drift, manages token budgets, and handles rate limits and outages. He also reveals testing tactics for non-deterministic AI outputs, configuration tips for custom authentication, and the highlights of the new v0.4 release, including “content parts” support for thinking-style models. Key topics discussed in this episode: • Abstracting LLM APIs behind a unified Elixir interface • Building and managing conversation chains across multiple models • Exposing application functionality to LLMs through tool integrations • Automatic retries and fallback chains for production resilience • Supporting a variety of LLM providers • Tracking and optimizing token usage for cost control • Configuring API keys, authentication, and provider-specific settings • Handling rate limits and service outages with degradation • Processing multimodal inputs (text, images) in Langchain workflows • Extracting structured data from unstructured LLM responses • Leveraging “content parts” in v0.4 for advanced thinking-model support • Debugging LLM interactions using verbose logging and telemetry • Kickstarting experiments in LiveBook notebooks and demos • Comparing Elixir LangChain to the original Python implementation • Crafting human-in-the-loop workflows for interactive AI features • Integrating Langchain with the Ash framework for chat-driven interfaces • Contributing to open-source LLM adapters and staying ahead of API changes • Building fallback chains (e.g., OpenAI → Azure) for seamless continuity • Embedding business logic decisions directly into AI-powered tools • Summarization techniques for token efficiency in ongoing conversations • Batch processing tactics to leverage lower-cost API rate tiers • Real-world lessons on maintaining uptime amid LLM service disruptions Links mentioned: https://rubyonrails.org/ https://fly.io/ https://zionnationalpark.com/ https://podcast.thinkingelixir.com/ https://github.com/brainlid/langchain https://openai.com/ https://claude.ai/ https://gemini.google.com/ https://www.anthropic.com/ Vertex AI Studio https://cloud.google.com/generative-ai-studio https://www.perplexity.ai/ https://azure.microsoft.com/ https://hexdocs.pm/ecto/Ecto.html https://oban.pro/ Chris McCord’s ElixirConf EU 2025 Talk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojL_VHc4gLk Getting started: https://hexdocs.pm/langchain/gettingstarted.html https://ash-hq.org/ https://hex.pm/packages/langchain https://hexdocs.pm/igniter/readme.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WM9iQlQSFg @brainlid on Twitter and BlueSky Special Guest: Mark Ericksen.
Blue Heron: Bluetooth Low Energy (BLE) for Elixir & Nerves with Connor Rigby
Connor Rigby joins the Elixir Wizards to talk about Blue Heron BLE (Bluetooth Low Energy) support for Elixir apps. Blue Heron implements the BLE specs in pure Elixir, leveraging binary pattern matching and concurrent message processing to handle Bluetooth protocols. Unlike most solutions that require C ports or NIFs, Blue Heron runs entirely in user space, so it works seamlessly in both Nerves-based embedded projects and (eventually) desktop Elixir applications. We discuss how Nerves development differs from building Phoenix apps. Connor shares challenges he's experienced with hardware compatibility, where some chips only partially implement the spec, and he discusses the surprisingly deep (but sometimes incomplete) world of BLE device profiles. His tip for anyone entering the BLE space: read the official spec instead of trusting secondhand blog posts. Tools like Nerves LiveBook give you hands-on examples, so you can get a BLE prototype running on a Raspberry Pi and your phone in no time. Key topics discussed in this episode: Blue Heron origins and “bird” naming convention BLE vs. Bluetooth Classic: core differences Pure Elixir implementation—no C dependencies Binary pattern matching for packet parsing Hardware transport options: UART, SPI, USB, SDIO GenServer patterns in Nerves vs. Phoenix Linux requirement and power-consumption trade-offs GATT (Generic Attribute Table) implementation patterns SQLite integration for Nerves apps Hardware chip quirks and spec compliance Manufacturer-specific commands and workarounds BLE device profiles and spec gaps Security Management Profile (SMP) for encryption Device connection and pairing workflows Web vs. embedded development differences Where to get started: hardware recommendations and docs Links mentioned: https://github.com/ConnorRigby/ https://github.com/blue-heron/ https://nerves-project.org/ BLE (Bluetooth Low Energy) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BluetoothLowEnergy https://developer.apple.com/ibeacon/ https://learnyousomeerlang.com/building-otp-applications Linux https://www.linux.org/ HCI (Host Controller Interface) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hostcontrollerinterface Circuits UART Library https://hexdocs.pm/circuitsuart/readme.html SPI (Serial Peripheral Interface) https://github.com/elixir-circuits/circuitsspi SDIO (Secure Digital Input Output https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SDIO Raspberry Pi https://www.raspberrypi.com/ Coral SoM Dev Board https://coral.ai/products/dev-board/ BeagleBone Single-Board Linux Computer https://www.beagleboard.org/boards/beaglebone-black https://www.bluetooth.com/bluetooth-resources/intro-to-bluetooth-gap-gatt/ Genservers https://hexdocs.pm/elixir/1.12/GenServer.html https://hexdocs.pm/ecto/Ecto.html https://github.com/elixir-sqlite/ectosqlite3 https://github.com/nerves-livebook/nerveslivebook Special Guest: Connor Rigby.
Zigler: Zig NIFs for Elixir with Isaac Yonemoto
In the Season 14 premiere, hosts Dan Ivovich and Sundi Myint chat with Isaac Yonemoto, creator of the Zigler library, to explore how Zigler brings Zig’s performance and safety to Elixir through Native Implemented Functions (NIFs). Isaac walks through the core design of Zigler and how it auto-generates the Elixir-to-Zig bridge, enforces type safety, and exposes multiple execution modes (normal, dirty, threaded). The conversation covers real-world applications, from SIMD-powered token selection for LLM hardware acceleration to OTP-style fault tolerance in low-level code. Isaac shares his own journey: stepping back from professional software work to launch a biotech startup focused on reducing drug manufacturing costs while continuing to maintain Zigler and even leveraging Elixir for bioinformatics pipelines. Topics discussed in this episode: What is the Zigler library and what does it do? What does it mean to run a "dirty NIF"? Async mode is temporarily removed from Zig (therefore, yielding NIFs is temporarily deprecated in Zigler) Zigler’s three execution modes (normal, dirty, and threaded) and how you switch modes with a single config change Isaac’s journey from professional software work to launching a biotech startup How Isaac leverages Elixir in bioinformatics pipelines at his startup LLM hardware acceleration using Zigler NIFs and SIMD-powered token picking Fault-tolerant load balancing of NIF workloads via OTP principles Transparent handling and recovery from hardware failures through monitoring Potential future memory-safety features in Zig and their implications The Elixir-based borrow-checker prototype: purpose and design Unit-checking for scientific computations to enforce correctness New OS support in Zigler 0.14: macOS, Windows, and FreeBSD Inline Zig code authoring directly within Elixir modules Isaac's commitment to maintain Zigler through its 1.0 release (...and beyond?) Links mentioned: https://github.com/E-xyza/zigler https://github.com/ziglang/zig https://vidalalabs.com/ Zig Programming Language: https://ziglang.org/ https://obsidian.md/ https://hexdocs.pm/elixir/macros.html https://erlang.org/documentation/doc-4.7.3/doc/extensions/macros.html A Deep Dive Into the Elixir AST: https://dorgan.ar/posts/2021/04/theelixirast/ https://www.erlang.org/doc/system/nif.html https://nodejs.org/en Llama Open-Source LLM: https://www.llama.com/ Mixtral Open-Source LLM: https://mistral.ai/news/mixtral-of-experts https://Fly.io SIMD: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singleinstruction,multiple_data https://opentrons.com/ CI/CD: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CI/CD https://hexdocs.pm/zigler/Zig.html http://www.x.com/DNAutics https://bsky.app/profile/dnautics.bsky.social