The investigation into Russia’s attempts to disrupt the election is unnerving Washington. At a Washington steakhouse, a New York Times reporter overheard just how much the tactics used by the special counsel are rattling the White House legal team. Guests: Matt Apuzzo, who has been covering the Russia investigation for The Times; Kenneth P. Vogel, the reporter who overheard that conversation in Washington. For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. You can support "The Daily" by subscribing to The Times. We're offering listeners one month free, then 50% off for a year. Go to nytimes.com/thedailyoffer for more information.

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